I'm working on building a GBR brand from the ground up for the next few days (my calendar is completely empty), starting with a logo. British Railways (BR), which from 1965 traded as British Rail, was a state-owned company that operated most of the overground rail transport in Great Britain from 1948 to 1997. I might take an example railway station (I'm thinking Rugby) and design signage made for that specific station, to see how things could look practically Not convinced. Given the furious backlash over the Protocol, as well as the ill-managed disappointment that was the two parties 2010 link-up (under the awful acronym UCUNF), one can understand why Northern Irish politicians shy away from the Tories. It may not display this or other websites correctly. We will probably get something like this Shorthand and in general parlance yes, but Great British Railways will be a brand that the DfT will want to get out there sooner rather than later, even if it is just a vinyl on top of existing TOC names. It highlighted different ways in which Westminster could invest in Britains strategic transport network to better-integrate the nation. True. The current lot is an absolute mess. It'll be operated quite differently. Its rolling stock initially carried the standard Rail Blue (or blue and grey) livery but in 1992, it introduced a new livery of red and grey, with pale blue and grey flashes. I agree I think the NR logo in the circle looks better, but GBR is such a mouthful - its just latent fear of the British Rail brand. I would say GWR (single colour) is a far better branding package than Avanti (3 colours). I suppose they are quite bland. Id like GN non-Moorgate stuff to join Greater Anglia, as they dont fit in LNER imo. (60163 still carries this livery in 2018) Black. Judging from the signage and station painting they will choose something somewhere between boring and ugly, and we will be stuck with it everywhere, for ages. The rebranding of British Railways to British Rail on 1 January 1965 was coupled with the introduction of an entirely new national livery. A later version made minor changes to the livery, the main one of which was to darken the main shade of blue used. The first break in the uniformity of Rail Blue came in 1976 with the introduction of the first InterCity 125 (HST). Clean, modern, easy to read, looks good and in the right colour set. I would rather that operations were branded similar to how they are now, but with a few changes compared with the existing TOC areas as follows: Chiltern Railways renamed as Chiltern & Oxbridge, with brand used on all planned EWR services in addition to those from London Marylebone. Despite the InterCity brand having been introduced in 1966, in 1985 the word 'Executive' was dropped and the livery was applied to all coaches and many locomotives used on InterCity services. Scottish rolling stock not covered by the ScotRail livery (generally those on secondary services) received the Regional Railways livery, but with "ScotRail" branding. If only we were to see a coherent joined up livery scheme to run nationwide like the picture above , however I rather suspect this will not be the case. Famous in York and up and down the East Coast Main Line, LNER could soon be consigned to history - again, YorkMix understands. There's rather a lot to list if you want to do it completely! It's not going to be called Rail England and if it was, there'd be nothing "Queen Nicola" could do about it. No complaints really over the Rail Alphabet, I even like seeing it on old BR signage that still exists here and there. The 1948 trials brought LMS Class 5s, and GWR Kings and Castles in lined light green and lined blue, with incorrect suggestions that two different blues were used. JavaScript is disabled. The infrastructure was privately owned and operated by Railtrack from 1994 to 2002, when it was renationalised and transferred to Network Rail. The iconic London and North Eastern Railway brand - better known as LNER - looks set to be withdrawn again. At the formation of British Railways on 1 January 1948, early diesel and electric locos and the gas turbine locomotives 18000 and 18100 were already painted black with aluminium trim, but by the late 1950s this had been superseded by the same shade of green that was used on express passenger steam locomotives, although some locomotives were painted in a two-tone Brunswick and Sherwood green livery, and Southern Region electric locomotives were painted a light shade of malachite green. [4] One locomotive, Class 47 No.D1733, was painted to match the coaching stock. It would appear that were going to be waiting a while even for the new logo, and that given the recent nature of the franchise liveries, that new liveries are a very long way off. Thanks. Correct. Corridor coaching stock and certain express multiple unit classes were painted in Rail Blue with a 44-inch Pearl Grey (BS 2660-9-095) horizontal panel centred vertically on the main windows, outlined by a narrow white line. Make the name central and it'd be perfect. Free delivery for many products! Why not capitalize on it? But the point is that effort has gone into developing a brand and what it stands for, it isn't just harking back to the awful 1970s, a time people seem to be seeing with a large pair of rose tinted spectacles. It is known as Great because it is the largest island in the British Isles, and houses the countries of England, Scotland and Wales within its shores. Eastern, North Eastern and Scottish. Once we lose TOC branding I certainly think service categories need to return, if only on the Dutch basis of them only describing service patterns rather than anything else. During 2020, in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic, all passenger train operating companies (TOCs) entered into Emergency Recovery Measures Agreements with the UK and Scottish Governments. I don't think the red understripe would appear though, and there will still be calls from TfGM, WYCA TfWM, TfW, etc. Great Britain is not a country; its a landmass. Great British Railways ( GBR) is a planned state-owned public body that will oversee rail transport in Great Britain, [1] with the exception of Transport for London and Merseytravel services, and light rail and trams elsewhere in England. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You are using an out of date browser. Suffice to say, an actual English nationalist would not be passing controversial legislation to enable Westminster to spend even more money on Northern Ireland, as this Government is. The Class 309 units worked between Liverpool Street and Clacton, occasionally also to Ipswich and Norwich and later upon transfer saw the livery briefly appear around Manchester and Birmingham. The new livery was used with the introduction of the Hastings Line electrification in 1986 to promote new electric trains on that line. London Midland (pre LNR), that was white on black but the same idea. Not so much the modern LNER though. I am confident I could design a better package in a few hours, and I am not a design professional. No.31271 in Railfreight "triple grey" livery with Construction sector markings. We badly need that on the visual mess that is the railway. Differences should merely be factual, not corporate. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; It really wouldn't. It does because it's public perception. This may well take time to introduce and rollout but my suggestion is as follows. Still makes me cringe everytime I see/read 'Great' in front of anything British since this mob got in. Thats a bit like saying everything has been invented, no need for anything more. And it that light it is intriguing that Ministers have. [7], The reorganisation does not affect Northern Ireland, where the railway is already operated by the vertically integrated and already wholly state-owned Northern Ireland Railways. GW 1 1 Great British Railways The history of British Rail's corporate liveries is quite complex. This style of livery was also used by CSX Transportation. Privacy Noticeand Website Accessibility. More middle days; they were improving quite a bit in the 1990s. Now there's a system others can look up to. Or the awful corporate blue BR? Here is some variants of my original 'swallow inspired' design. I don't think there would ever be multiple logos for Great British Railways as you've alluded to - it would make it complicated for the end passenger. The livery was carried on the rolling stock, but also on a number of locomotives which were dedicated to mail and parcels traffic, mainly of Classes 47 and 90. [7], Under Network Rail, all stations are formally in public hands since 2014, but only 20 (mainly large termini and central stations) are managed directly by it. 1948 -. "Image of No.47163 with Silver Jubilee Union Jack", History of Blood and Custard (Crimson Lake & Cream) Livery, Information on Freight Locomotive Liveries & logos, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Rail_corporate_liveries&oldid=1136093401, Articles with unsourced statements from December 2014, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. For me, it's time to sign off from the Great Western Railway Line. The rail system is a public service not an art gallery. The old BR liveries look dated now and have done for a while. One of the big ones is an end to endless rebranding of trains when the operator changes with various bit of old livery hanging about for a long time, never mind the cost and waste involved. OK, it's not a big change, but Germany tends to do rebrandings very infrequently. In 1964, as part of a plan to develop a new corporate image for British Railways, a number of experiments were tried; Discussions on the livery for British Railways coaching stock in 1948 eventually settled on a network-wide two-tone livery of crimson and cream for corridor coaches, with all-over crimson being used for local, non-corridor stock. For locomotives used on internal British Rail duties, a separate livery of a plain darker grey was created. After contacting GBRTT (Transition Team), I have been informed of their intention to create a new livery. [16] As well as rolling stock and multiple units, a number of Class 47 and Class 50 locomotives dedicated to Network SouthEast passenger services were painted in this livery. | Page 23 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. In 1986 the British Railways Board divided its operations into a number of sectors (sectorisation).The sector responsible for long-distance express trains assumed the brand-name . The British Isles in my old school geography books included the island of Ireland but I wouldn't have said that in my recent visit to the country! Can you only be professional if every rail person works in the same uniform? What is wrong with different routes and regions having different liveries? Messages: 1,398. Search for a trade mark - Intellectual Property Office (ipo.gov.uk), https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/912009372292780033, Somewhere along the West Anglia Main Line. And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. Last week Doug Beattie, the newly-installed leader of the Ulster Unionist Party, hit out at Boris Johnson. Our railways play a fundamental role in supporting the economic, environmental and social achievements of the country. Because it's not going to be the same as BR. I don't think there would ever be multiple logos for Great British Railways as you've alluded to - it would make it complicated for the end passenger. This page was last edited on 28 January 2023, at 18:28. I'm unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, I'd expect 'GBR' to feature. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I still think" Great British Railways" will be mostly likely be termed GBR, most of the time. Steam locomotive 61306 Mayflower seen just outside Sittingbourne, Kent at lunchtime today. Likes Received: 1,930. In 1977 two Class 47 locomotives, 47163 and 47164, were painted by Stratford TMD with silver roofs and other decorations including a full body height Union Flag on each side, in celebration of Queen Elizabeth II's silver jubilee. Eventually, it was decided to standardise on a colour which became known as Rail Blue. If you run across land borders you're going to get it. But we know that anyway - ScotRail is blue based, as was Regional Railways. A livery, similar to ScotRail but with the upper dark grey bodyside replaced with a dark blue, was created. Someone will design a great livery in the future and someone else will design a crap livery. Thus Class 47 47170 County of Norfolk, allocated to Stratford and a regular performer on trains between Liverpool Street and Norwich, was painted in Large Logo livery. A mock-up for the British Railways Mark 2 stock was displayed at the Design Centre, 28 Haymarket, London, (the showrooms of the Council of Industrial Design) in 1964. A nod to the past in the liveries would be nice like with the modern GWR too. This mock-up was shown in an orange and grey livery, which, however, never appeared on rolling stock in service. If it was, that format would not be used by: If you need any proof, they've also just done the same with 'Great British Nuclear'. https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/912009372292780033. The bottom one is basically Serco era Northern signage, and does look good to me, though I would go for a subtle double arrow in the bottom right as I said earlier, and omit the GBR text. Corridor coaching stock was originally trialled in LNWR coach plum and off-white (nicknamed Plum and Spilt Milk) before Crimson (carmine red) and Cream livery (nicknamed Blood and Custard) was adopted across the network; non-corridor stock was painted plain Crimson. In the days of signs being hand painted/stencilled on enamel I would agree, but it is so much easier to make stuff look good these days that there is really no excuse for this sort of thing. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. the report stated that there would be some update to the double arrow, though not what that update would be. JavaScript is disabled. Recognising this, the Plan for Rail recommended the development of a 30-year strategy to determine how best the railways can support Britain in the future. Do you think we should use different colours for regions like we sort of have now, https://twitter.com/_doublearrow/status/1455113527954493474/photo/1. Please can you explain the advantage of such a nationwide livery? Great Central Railway {} Sample: 002366: Great Eastern Railway {} Sample: 00a550: Great Northern Railway (Great Britain) {{GNGE colour}} Sample: 00645b: Great Northern and Great Eastern Joint Railway {{GWGC colour}} Sample: 47640f: Great Western and Great Central Joint Railway {} Sample: 964b00: Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway The Tories, particulary this present mob of throwbacks, have long since co-opted the "great" in "Great Britain" to mean "very good"and its xenophobic, imperialist undertones make me want to vomit. Not sure but I was also thinking of the winding up arrangements that would've taken place at privatisation i.e. I tried going with the National Rail icon in the right hand side, but it was too small and nobody would notice it. The first Class 31 entered service in November . For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. [13], On 5 February 2022, the Department for Transport launched a public consultation for the location of GBRs headquarters. One overarching brand, with sub brands sitting below it, for long distance services and regional brands all under the GBR moniker, much like we do today with Southern, South Eastern, South Western, Northern, etc. [14] After this date, the passenger versions of Class 37 and 47, as well as Class 50, were routinely outshopped in this livery. He branded the Prime Minister an English nationalist, who was prepared to ignore Northern Ireland as the Conservatives have no electoral stake in the Province. I just see the thing as extremely surface level. Compared to the superb branding packages of TfW and ScotRail, it does not say "come use the railway . There'll no doubt be someone on here who knows, one way or the other. A High Speed Train power car (loco) and coach in InterCity swallow livery. If they are going down the GBR route, which is just nationalisation with extra steps, it needs to look the part (the national part, not the extra steps part). [2] It was a dark, greyish blue tone which hid the effects of dirt well. 1948 -. And Great Britain is more often than not used to mean the whole of England/Scotland/Wales, excluding Northern Ireland - a legacy of the Kingdom of Great Britain, which existed from 1707 to 1800. This competition aimed to identify a place with a rich railway heritage, strong links to the national network and significant public support, while creating a great opportunity to promote the location as the proud home for the start of a new era in Britains railways. This long term strategy for rail will be a landmark resource, enabling a clear and agreed direction for the railway. So even if that doesn't become the actual 'GBR' logo it will likely see some use on stations and maybe trains. Here are his exact words: Hes concerned with the English vote. Not the terms I would have used but I see where you might get that impression. On 10 June 1986, British Rail launched Network SouthEast, an organisation designed to cut across the traditional regional boundaries and deliver a co-ordinated train service for London and the surrounding region. You are using an out of date browser. Sadly cream on modern stock looks quite bad, or I suspect one incarnation of GWR might have tried it white might work ok instead. But Beatties second charge is more interesting. The WilliamsShapps plan recommended that there will be a single, unifying brand for railways, and it is expected that this will be a gradual rebranding over time. Managed to get a look at a new proposed one: But my point is that DB have had the same basic livery for so long. By 2020s Britain, I mean a design that is reflective of modern day marketing and branding. Antrim Princess Sealink ferry underway in Larne with Sealink letters. I personally like this Lion logo posted by Tim Dunn on twitter a few years ago, Not at all. The Transport Secretary announced on 19 October 2022 that the Transport Bill which would have set up GBR would not go ahead in the current parliamentary session.[2]. One hallmark of the Governments approach to the constitutional struggle to hold the United Kingdom together has been a recognition that pro-Union policy is not simply a matter for a single department: it needs to run throughout the business of the State. Home Forums A corporate livery was created for major express services in Scotland, which effectively consisted of the InterCity livery with the red stripe replaced by a light blue one. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; Im unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, Id expect GBR to feature. [3] Goods (freight) services are operated by a number of companies, the descendants of those created during the 1990s privatisation. Because it was a nationalised industry run by the British Government. I can sort of understand lumping Moorgate services in with London Overground, but LNER to Kings Lynn has been suggested many times without any compelling reason as to why, beyond "something something intercity standard", This idea often seems to pop its head up. For 2mm/N equivalents, change the start of the reference number FRH4 for FRH2. After this time small variations in the Rail Blue livery became much more common. I quite like that version; I think I might like it even more if the black and the red were blue instead though. How about that but the double arrow in red? Eastfield TMD staff near Glasgow also embellished a few examples of the class 37/0's allocated to the depot with a lower bodyside white stripe in the mid-80s but were told to stop doing it and repaint the ones they'd already done back to the standard blue livery by the BR hierarchy. It's only as complicated as you want it to be. With the publication of the Williams review and the announcement of the renationalization of British Passenger Rail, i thought i might help out anyone exited for new liveries or branding for trains.. into flashy advertising campaigns, the appearance of the showrooms (and their digital counterpart, the website), and the styling of their vehicles? At present, train operators get to decorate their rolling stock in their own colours. The UK, Britain, Great Britain, The British Isles, England - what's the difference? White letters on a navy background is the way to go. Although from the mid-1960s to the 1980s the organisation was associated with "Rail Blue", a number of other schemes were also used, especially when it was split into operating units or "sectors" in the mid-1980s. Unfortunately, there is little sign that Beattie actually intends to do anything differently, in this regard at least, to the Democratic Unionists he hopes to supplant. The XP64 train was used to test technology and carriage arrangements for the planned Mark 2 coaches. Great British Railways marks a new era in the history of our railways. I could see those different types of logos being used across scenarios. Something will need to be kept open for Open Access Operators to be distinguished. When British Rail operations were divided into sectors in the mid-1980s, prior to privatisation, a new version of the Railfreight livery emerged giving the sectors individual identities. I think in Germany it is done by using the "TOC" name in place of IC etc. There was a return of some regional schemes: the Western Region turned out some Mk1 sets for named expresses in chocolate/cream, similar to that used by the GWR before nationalisation. It will become a single familiar brand with a bold new vision for passengers - of punctual services, simpler tickets. Great Western Railways/British Railway Western Region. The devolved administrations, the combined authorities, and the Greater London Authority will continue to exercise their current powers, such as setting fares and awarding contracts, and will remain democratically accountable for this. JavaScript is disabled. I reckon a simple logo like the one youve depicted will be what we see. All other brands (SE, Southern, Thameslink, SWR, GWR, TfW, Merseyrail, Overground, Crossrail, GA, c2c, Scotrail) remain as they are. Swiss style would be nice, British society & culture wouldn't allow this as we for example don't have direct democracy as in Switzerland this is a very good example of how it can work, credit to Dispatcher on the Stour on Twitter. Finsbury Park. 19th September, 2019. This livery suited these diesel hydraulic classes, and allowed the Western Region to once again show a degree of independence; it was not applied to any other diesel or electric classes (other than the Class 42/43 "Warships"). Class 14s D9537 (in desert sand livery) and D9539 prepare a double-head a train on the Ribble Steam Railway. Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? It does look better than red. JavaScript is disabled. A railway works best as a single unit. One thing that might work, though, would be to drop the full text from the red band and just have a subtle double arrow on the right hand side in that. They were numbered in two series, D5500-D5699 and D5800-D5862. Agree, having at least 'intercity', 'regional' and 'metro' would be good. BRs own history says otherwise. Then why was the old version called British Railways, not Great British Railways, and why the change now for the new version if British Railways worked? Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. The colours were chosen to be different from those of any of the "Big Four" pre-nationalisation railway companies while retaining a traditional aspect. Instead, I just added an icon next to the full text and removed it from the main station name. In terms of changing the background colour - I was going to go with a navy blue, but then it wouldn't integrate with any part of the design system I had in my head, so I opted not to. What is of 2020s Britain then? The final decision was to be made later in 2022,[16] but the result has not been announced as of February 2023. A number of sets of coaching stock and a handful of locomotives received the livery, as well as most new multiple units and some existing ones. Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . Great Britain (or just Britain) is the mainland of England, Scotland and Wales. Why are so many cars driven around dirty with the user making no attempt to keep them clean? (Something that ought to give die-hard advocates of splitting off the Scottish Conservatives pause for thought.) though we may have to wait for a new govt for that to happen. Why do most people go for a car that is mostly all one single colour. It really does look dire. The concession contract system will be the long-term replacement for the previous system of passenger rail franchising run by the Department for Transport, which became unsustainable early in 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic. This colour was applied to all diesel and electric locomotives, with the exception of the ends, which were painted yellow to improve visibility, and the underframes and buffer beams which were painted black; the paints being to BSS 2660-0.003 and BSS 2660-9.103 respectively. The white paper does not specify whether the branding of devolved railways such as London Overground and Merseyrail will be affected.[7]. Another Class 52, No.D1015 Western Champion was delivered in another, darker yellow/brown colour described as 'Golden Ochre', though somewhat different from that applied to D5579. Livery Guide Great Western Railways/British Railway Western Region. Beattie acknowledges how Ulsters separate unionist parties weaken the Union. GBR will own all stations and most infrastructure in Great Britain. Or do you think TfL should change their look away from using the current font simply because it's been that way since the 1930s or whenever? Dedicated station management teams will be created within regional divisions of GBR to manage stations and land. The system just looks like a disparate random mish mash of different organisations each running trains in their own way. A throwback to the 70s and 80s can sometimes work, but not often, but I think. Copyright 2023 Great British Railways Transition Team. There is surely a case at least for putting the cross-border inter-city services in national colours (perhaps an updated take on Network SouthEast), to match the saltires splashed all over Scotrail trains. As built it was a sort of purplish-red stripe with a lighter red shadow, then this changed to solid red in the late 90s/early 2000s. The United Kingdom is defined clearly on the passport .. the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. [14] By 16 March (the deadline for submitting expressions of interest), 42 towns and cities had expressed an interest in hosting GBR's headquarters. At the moment, the TOC mostly differentiates this. Originally running from 1923 until 1948 when it became British Railway, LNER returned to the route of famous for the Flying Scotsman in 2018 when the . Oct 22, 2021 All that remains, is to remember the man who made the Journey possible; the greatest engineer of all time and the architect who built modern Britain - Isambard Kingdom Brunel. TL:DR - if your a british collector, and you paint your own, PUT THE STRIPPER DOWN. Like the Thameslink 700 "can't be bothered" livery. Find out more Contact us Freedom of Information Jobs at GBRTT Media Sign up for GBRTT News Privacy and GDPR Terms and conditions You are using an out of date browser. In many ways having a 'Railway System' logo (the double arrow) for stations/journey planners but a different logo so people know the train is a 'big' intercity train or a 'small' stopping train is very helpful. 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